JustWantedToBeGood 27 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) @rumoi Great job with what you've done already but I've got an idea, not sure if it is even possible tho. Is it possible to instead of waiting on the menu for like 5~20 seconds (depending on the song lenght), the spectator could go into the spectator mode without delay but instead of appearing "Buffering (0%)" for 5~20secs at the start of the map it would appear "Host paused" for 5~20secs? Is there anyway to trick osu! to make that happen? Would be pretty cool imo. "5-20secs" is just an example. Edited September 25, 2018 by JustWantedToBeGood 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lain 1 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Would be obvious as well if u paused for 5-20 seconds at every song u play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goku 8 Share Posted September 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, lain said: Would be obvious as well if u paused for 5-20 seconds at every song u play. still way less obvious imo since people wont spec u for a long period of time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Goku said: still way less obvious imo since people wont spec u for a long period of time This^ it's way less obvious imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lain 1 Share Posted September 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: This^ it's way less obvious imo When a user have to wait 5-20 seconds, do my profile display that I'm playing, choosing a song or Idle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, lain said: When a user have to wait 5-20 seconds, do my profile display that I'm playing, choosing a song or Idle? Never tried to check with my other account but I guess it tells people that I'm Playing a song Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lain 1 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: Never tried to check with my other account but I guess it tells people that I'm Playing a song Should be changed to display "Idle" or "choosing song" instead. Edited September 25, 2018 by lain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) It shouldn't be changed to anything, if it's supposed to originally say that I'm playing a song, it should stay like that... Imagine someone decides to spectate me while I'm "Idle" and he goes into spectator mode and he sees that I'm paused? But as I said I don't really know what it shows on profile when I'm paused on a song. edit: englando I think we are not on the same page tho, are you referring to what the spectator will see when watching me or when seeing the Profile things? Edited September 25, 2018 by JustWantedToBeGood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lain 1 Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: It shouldn't be changed to anything, it it's supposed to originally say that I'm playing a song, it should stay like that... Imagine someone decides to spectate me while I'm "Idle" and he goes into spectator mode and he sees that I'm paused? But as I said I don't really know what it shows on profile when I'm paused on a song. He won't see anything because as soon as his delay will end the text will change to "playing". Edited September 25, 2018 by lain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just now, lain said: He won't see anything because as soon as his delay will end the text will change to "playing". I guess you're talking about the profile? I think it never says "Choosing a song". only "Playing" "Idle" "Watching" etc etc It only says Choosing a song when you're on spectator mode and the guy is actually choosing a song Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lain 1 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: I guess you're talking about the profile? I think it never says "Choosing a song". only "Playing" "Idle" "Watching" etc etc It only says Choosing a song when you're on spectator mode and the guy is actually choosing a song I saw players with status "choosing song" and "idle" and "watching" and I'm talking about the status u see below the profile name in "online" tab in osu client. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, lain said: I saw players with status "choosing song" and "idle" and "watching" and I'm talking about the status u see below the profile name in "online" tab in osu client. I never saw the "Choosing song" one and i've been playing the game for very long, I must be blind lmao edit: U using stable version of Cutting edge? I use stable Edited September 25, 2018 by JustWantedToBeGood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lain 1 Share Posted September 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: I never saw the "Choosing song" one and i've been playing the game for very long, I must be blind lmao edit: U using stable version of Cutting edge? I use stable I'm using cutting edge mostly, depends when ;d Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 33 minutes ago, lain said: I'm using cutting edge mostly, depends when ;d Uhmm it's probably a cutting edge feature because I never saw that on stable, the "Choosing song" thing, but yeah Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lain 1 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: Uhmm it's probably a cutting edge feature because I never saw that on stable, the "Choosing song" thing, but yeah So... can you check what the status says when player has to wait? I don't have two PC's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, lain said: So... can you check what the status says when player has to wait? I don't have two PC's. I'll check tomorrow, have to sleep rn xD 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rumoi 120 Share Posted September 26, 2018 From my testing it sending the pause status is just weird, most people don't pause every map. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 hours ago, rumoi said: From my testing it sending the pause status is just weird, most people don't pause every map. But most spectators don't really watch us for so long and I think it would be still better than appearing the buffering thing For example if I get spectators they are usually my friends and if I "pause" they wouldn't really think about anything cheat related Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rumoi 120 Share Posted September 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: But most spectators don't really watch us for so long and I think it would be still better than appearing the buffering thing For example if I get spectators they are usually my friends and if I "pause" they wouldn't really think about anything cheat related Uhh it is much less suspicious for it to just be slightly delayed. Trust me. The entire spectator system is weird and slight delays before opening a map happen in normal play all the time. Pausing on literally every play would be extremely easy to notice and start comparing lengths (you can even internally calculate something is fucked its that blatant). The spectating client being delayed by an undermined amount of time at the start is how it will always be. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lain 1 Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 hours ago, rumoi said: Uhh it is much less suspicious for it to just be slightly delayed. Trust me. The entire spectator system is weird and slight delays before opening a map happen in normal play all the time. Pausing on literally every play would be extremely easy to notice and start comparing lengths (you can even internally calculate something is fucked its that blatant). The spectating client being delayed by an undermined amount of time at the start is how it will always be. Exactly what I said, pausing on every song u play at the start is extremely suspicious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 I'm fine with how it is now. Btw did you do something with the game crashing randomly with the buffering feature on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rumoi 120 Share Posted September 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: Btw did you do something with the game crashing randomly with the buffering feature on? Is your game still crashing randomly with it turned on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, rumoi said: Is your game still crashing randomly with it turned on. Haven't tried it yet, that's why I asked if you changed something. I'll try today and tell something about it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JustWantedToBeGood 27 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, rumoi said: Is your game still crashing randomly with it turned on. So far so good. (no crashes) Btw is it still possible to make an option so we can choose if we want the spectator to see "Host paused" instead of "Buffering" at the start? This way we could alternate between those 2 things even if you can't swap between those 2 I would still like to be able to choose between both, somedays I would use the Buffering one somedays the Host paused one... so it won't be always the same thing idk Edited September 26, 2018 by JustWantedToBeGood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rumoi 120 Share Posted September 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, JustWantedToBeGood said: Btw is it still possible to make an option so we can choose if we want the spectator to see "Host paused" instead of "Buffering" at the start? This way we could alternate between those 2 things You do know it does not say buffering at the start right? Why would I add an option to make it say paused when what you are saying does not happen by default. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites